• Bobby Turkalino
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    952 days ago

    The Bay Area is probably the only thing keeping that company alive. Every stoplight you pull up to there has at least a couple Teslas

    • @morrowind@lemmy.ml
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      712 days ago

      I know a lot of people who bought teslas before musk became a full blown oligarch and feel uncomfortable about it

        • Echo Dot
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          37 hours ago

          Realistically though what are they going to do about it? They probably can’t sell the vehicle because of the now stigma attached to it and if they don’t sell it they probably can’t afford a new car.

      • Mike
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        1323 hours ago

        They just weren’t paying attention then because Musk has always been exactly that.

        • GladiusB
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          210 hours ago

          Do you look up every owner of the manufacturer of everything you buy? I agree he has been this way for a while. But people buy cars for transportation. Not for their owners.

          • Mike
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            47 hours ago

            Like the other guy said, Elon Musk is public about his shittiness. In the beginning didn’t even care about him, and yet I couldn’t escape him because he was constantly on the news.

            • GladiusB
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              25 hours ago

              I am not denying that Elon is shitty. But people don’t buy cars based on their manufacturing owners. There is a need and they are fulfilling that need. Should they have known? Probably. But it’s also not a usual requirement for purchasing a car.

              • Mike
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                25 hours ago

                Well, if you go back to my original comment, all I said was that Tesla owners were clearly not paying attention to even their News notifications on their phones, since Musk’s presence is ubiquitous. Tesla’s multitude of issues is equally as well-known.

                That said, I didn’t wish anybody any harm for buying a Tesla, although they probably will get harmed when the “self-driving” feature inevitably sends them speeding into a brick wall.

                But buying that garbage car was their choice.

          • @utopiah@lemmy.world
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            10 hours ago

            True, but most CEOs are unknown to consumers, only to employees and share-holders. Usually there is a “culture” of a company that is a blend of PR, advertising, marketing, etc. Here Musk became associated with the brand though. Tesla existed before Musk and worked well… but was nowhere near a popular. I hate Musk yet I feel it’s fair (and please if you have data showing I’m wrong, do share, I’d love to remove any wrongful attributed credit from him) to say he made Tesla enormously more popular than before he invested in it. So… you are right in most cases people buy cars, and other products, without knowing about the CEO but that specifically does not apply to Tesla where the hype precisely came from a self branded as IronMan.

        • @proudblond@lemmy.world
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          591 day ago

          Any car is sold at a loss. As someone who recently paid one of these off, I can’t stomach a new car payment in the face of our melting economy because six years ago I didn’t foresee the head of a car company turning out to be a freaking nazi.

          Considering my Tesla replaced a VW TDI, I’m feeling particularly salty and completely disillusioned about ethical consumption under capitalism, etc. etc. I wish people on Lemmy could have some empathy and not just assume that everyone driving a Tesla is sanctioning anything that Elon Musk does.

          • @utopiah@lemmy.world
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            110 hours ago

            people on Lemmy could have some empathy and not just assume that everyone driving a Tesla is sanctioning anything that Elon Musk does.

            Costs 1 EUR and takes 10sec to put a sticker on a Tesla that says “I bought this before Elon went mad” and plenty of people on Lemmy would understand I bet. It’s more of a gesture to show that one having a Tesla does not support the actions of the its CEO. A Tesla without even a sticker on is assumed to be owned by someone who knows yet either does not care or even supports Musk.

          • @anotherandrew@lemmy.mixdown.ca
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            71 day ago

            I’m currently driving that VW TDI – best car I’ve ever owned in 35 years. Next vehicle wasn’t going to be a Tesla, but perhaps an F150 Lightning if they ever get their head out their asses and offer a regular old e-pickup – I don’t want quad cab and a short bed, just two doors and a regular full size bed would be great. Alas, that’s hard to find in ICE, let alone electric.

            • @parody@lemmings.world
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              218 hours ago

              That emissions cheating soured me on them

              (Though I do believe they used a clever method)

              Glad it’s so good!

              • @anotherandrew@lemmy.mixdown.ca
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                116 hours ago

                The dumbest part is that after I got my car updated (the Passat only needed a firmware update) the fuel economy was not even one MPG worse. It’s been a decade and I’m still regularly getting slightly better than 50MPG on the highway and low-30s in the city. There was no reason to cheat.

                • @parody@lemmings.world
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                  112 hours ago

                  No way!

                  Was the cheat focused on the rest of the fleet (larger cars?), but applied to all [JIC]? 🤔


                  50+ wao

                  • @anotherandrew@lemmy.mixdown.ca
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                    211 hours ago

                    It’s my understanding that the cheat was in all TDI models, but the smaller Jetta was particularly bad because it didn’t have a urea system and the fix for that model was to retrofit one. My Passat may have needed a more robust urea injector and not just software, but I can’t remember now. Either way on my year/model the fix was barely noticeable.

          • @poopkins@lemmy.world
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            -121 day ago

            He was a boldfaced liar six years ago, too. You fell for the “full self driving by 2016” scam and the other false claims and fabrications.

            • @proudblond@lemmy.world
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              323 hours ago

              We did not purchase full self driving. My husband rightfully thought that it was a bit of a pipe dream. I’m too much of a control freak to allow a car to drive for me. Also six years ago was 2019 so if you think I fell for “full self driving by 2016” then I think you can’t do math.

            • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ
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              021 hours ago

              That’s assuming a lot. I wanted a car that was fast, electric, had easy charging, good range, and didn’t cost $100,000. 5 years ago, that was a Model 3.

              Didn’t give a shit about Musk’s lies, always knew he was full of it and was a typical scumbag CEO; I did not peg him as someone to go full on Nazi mode.

        • dustycups
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          21 day ago

          I cant wait till we start seeing them with all the conspicacy-nut writing all over them but the other way around:
          Vaccines work, fuck musk, lgbt rights are himan rights etc.

        • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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          21 day ago

          i also wonder what people in cali are thinking when they bought the cybertruck, because i seen quite a few to them. i noticed they try to obscure the windos,s o people dont know that are driving it.

    • bluGill
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      82 days ago

      Even in iowa you see them all over. There are so many drivers any car make other than the most exclusive will be seen soon if you fixate on it (read look).

      Stastics show tesla is a tiny brand by market share. However they are wer the only ev brand until reciently so people focus on them.

      • Pennomi
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        112 days ago

        And that’s really the only reason I have one - it was the only long range electric car available when I bought it. Now I would choose any of the many other options first.

        • @Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world
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          010 hours ago

          I’d be curious about why you haven’t taken the moral stance and sold it.

          What’s going on in America needs people to take actual steps. Votes aren’t enough anymore.

          • Pennomi
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            310 hours ago

            I don’t pay Tesla for the vehicle (I don’t even supercharge), so it doesn’t actually affect their bottom line if I sell it. Buying a new car does affect my bottom line though.

            Boycotts are only effective when they change purchasing behaviors, and this purchase is long done. I do encourage everyone who asks if I like my car to look into specific alternatives instead however.

      • @kameecoding@lemmy.world
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        11 day ago

        Tesla has basically only two models and even those two look quite samey, one is just more bloated, ao ofc you see them everywhere